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Unhappy with Seguin, unhappier with the prospect of annexation

Posted: Sunday, September 9, 2012 12:00 am

What nerve!

Recently, we received a letter in the mail from the city of Seguin, about annexation.

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  • Hoot posted at 11:08 pm on Fri, Sep 14, 2012.

    Hoot Posts: 144

    I don't know David Lee Chris did ask for earnest and intelligent communication on a higher level than children would have.

  • David Lee posted at 8:07 pm on Fri, Sep 14, 2012.

    David Lee Posts: 349

    "Chris I think your expecting too much from us in this forum."


    I'm sure that's not true.

  • gmainc posted at 2:46 pm on Fri, Sep 14, 2012.

    gmainc Posts: 539

    Just for clarification, Scott Powers expounded repeatedly on his legal acumen and his brother's winning millions for his clients. I just wondered why he did not know how to spell the word judgment in the legal sense.

  • sn14 posted at 11:38 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    sn14 Posts: 28

    Chris, you are right. This is getting silly and useless. Who cares what is spelled correctly? Time to move on.

  • posted at 6:57 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.


    Sorry Mr. Lykins, but don't offer it if you don't like what's being said..Your paper could use all the help it can get!

  • taxwatchdog posted at 1:45 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    taxwatchdog Posts: 466

    Scott Powers, I fully understand why you do not want to be annexed into Seguin. When the Seguin city manager, city finance director, mayor, and council members can not read their own legal notice on the city tax rate, how could anyone have confidence in the city? All city officials thought the rollback tax rate was $0.5560 even though the legal notice published in this newspaper on July 29 clearly stated after sales tax adjustment the rollback tax rate was $0.4802. Jeremiah Arevalo tried to convince them as a resident to be heard at more than one city council meeting that the correct rollback tax rate was $0.4802, but they refused to listen. Now, I understand a new legal notice is being prepared to justify increasing the rollback rate. Call it a shell game. Call it three card monty. City officials are determined keep the tax rate at $0.5073 and remain the highest taxed city in Guadalupe County no matter how much manipulation of the numbers it takes. Who would want to be annexed into a city that goes to these extremes to raise taxes on its citizens?

  • Hoot posted at 10:21 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Hoot Posts: 144

    Chris I think your expecting too much from us in this forum. Looking back at a good deal of the posts not just this one a lot of people just want to get on here to have a good old fashioned argument and express their highly opinionated point of view.. If you want to improve the discourse in the forums I think making everyone use their real names would help. I'm sure people myself included would be less inclined to make a snide remark if people knew who they really were.

    As far as staying on subject, I would have to say that going to be a hard thing to control from thinking about the post I've read here for the last year or so. I'm kind kind of surprised someone didn't blame McMinn or Wiggins or even Obama for the annexation.

    Sorry to be a part of your frustration. Einstein hit it on the nose: Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe

    One of my favorite Yo Mommy jokes: Yo mama is so fat that she walked into the Gap and filled it.. Hope you have a good day.

    My apologizes to Pastor Shurley as well.

  • Chris Lykins posted at 8:43 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Chris Lykins Posts: 350 Staff

    Seriously? Get on topic or move on to something else, folks. I've seen a higher level of discourse in my son's playground. We're one step away from sliding into "your mama" jokes or "my dad can beat up your dad."

    I can, and will, shut the comments down on this post.

  • jshurley04 posted at 12:56 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    jshurley04 Posts: 69


    Yes, I am the pastor of SouthPoint and there was nothing in that post that encouraged or fostered ill will or that conveyed a negative feeling. Obviously Scott Powers is unhappy about being annexed and in later posts laid out his case for why he is against it. If the invitation to leave, to someone whom is obviously unhappy, is wrong, then why? We offered to help with the packing and loading which is the right thing to do. I don't want his property and I seriously doubt he would sell if it has been in the family as long as he says, and frankly, I don't think he should sell. But if one cannot be happy in the city/area where they live the obvious answer is to move.

    By the way, just because one is a minister, they do NOT give up their rights or privileges of citizenship, local or national. Having said that, I realize that there is no sarcasm font for forums like this. I realize that just because it sounds one way in my head, that does not mean that it sounds that way in the mind of anyone else who reads my posts. Thus, I apologize if I came across in any way that was negative, pompous, or jerky. I did not mean to convey those ideas in my post.

    Scott Powers - I apologize that I did not convey my words in a manner that were not offensive to you. Please forgive my error in the way I worded my post.

  • BBQ Man posted at 8:33 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    BBQ Man Posts: 253

    I would like to see Mr. Powers run for office but he seems to be content complaining as if that will do the trick. If you are sincere Mr. Powers run for office. Anybody can Monday morning quarterback. All the fans in the stands on Friday night have never lost a game! Just saying....

  • scottpowers posted at 2:14 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Nice point Madea1961..How about the british way of spelling theater-theatre.

  • posted at 2:03 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.


    gmainc, you may want to call the queen of England and complain about the way they spell color-colour

  • scottpowers posted at 12:28 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Oh my, get off the gas. I never used "judgement" in a legal forum, at all! I have it in my dictionary as well, in my book Barron's legal, fifth edition by Steven H. Gifis.."judgment" page 275. Judgment is first, second in the judgment cat. is the wording "Cognovit judgment" and so on! Sorry for adding e. Now you are looking bad!!!

  • scottpowers posted at 12:14 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Thank you Madea196 1. I noticed two misspelled several words, adding too many letters, and in one case, I left out a letter. This is my fault for not proofing. gmainc, if you are a real lawyer, you are not very good at it! I have read some of your posts in the past, and misspelling is the very last thing you should worry about. Furthermore, I worry about your clients not getting proper legal services. As it stands, I really do not believe you are a lawyer, I believe you watch way too many Law and Order reruns.

  • gmainc posted at 12:04 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    gmainc Posts: 539

    Check Black's Law Dictionary.

  • posted at 9:22 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.


    Accually you can spell it both ways, check the dictionary, and he was not referring to any legal Judgments as you state as how you spell it in the law. I checked in Websters dictionary as well as two others-"also spelled-Judgement" he also added some extra letters down below, does that mean he can't spell at all? At any rate, his brother is the lawyer in Dallas, most of the good lawyers hit the big towns.I think you need to stick to local law practice.

  • gmainc posted at 7:17 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    gmainc Posts: 539

    No, not grasping at straws. In the legal field that is how judgment is spelled, with no e between the g and m. I worked in the field many years. Not bitter, just find it odd he says he's worked in the legal field and then doesn't spell it right. No more, no less.

  • posted at 6:40 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.


    @gmainc, I have known Scott Powers for 25 years and is a very, very good speller, good at math and great at just about anything he puts his mind to. He spelled "judgements" correctly in a post just below, 14 down, last sentence, so I guess you are just grasping for straws.

  • scottpowers posted at 6:19 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    gmainc, such bitterness!! I am here to say, who cares what you think!! I can live where I want, how I want ,and make any observations I want! Yes my brother is very successful!!\ Let me sum it up by stating that I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else here in Seguin.

  • Hoot posted at 11:45 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    Hoot Posts: 144


    Just read that your the pastor at SouthPoint Baptist Family Fellowship.
    Copied and pasted from your website:

    SouthPoint Baptist Family Fellowship desires to show our community true, unconditional love in order to bring spiritual healing through Christ that creates a family atmosphere that will facilitate spiritual growth.

    I can see how your post here conveys that

    So what time does is your church start your cross burning at.?

  • gmainc posted at 9:26 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    gmainc Posts: 539

    Your brother moved away and apparently has a booming law practice. Perhaps you should follow suit. As for being well versed in the law, I find it odd you can't spell judgment correctly.

  • scottpowers posted at 7:31 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Well, I am glad you asked that question. It's a concept in the law called "sovereign Immunity" where the checks and balances are done all by by city counsels and other local governing bodies. Say the city of Seguin has a pot hole"Which they do x 1000" they have not fixed, you cannot sue for damages to your car, even if it is nothing less than gross neglience by the city.. My brothers law firm just published a new letter on this very issue..The spirit of the law is quite different than it was supposed to be early on. The claim by the governmental body is "we just do not have the money". Not much we can do about it except post the facts in the media..

  • ddbt01 posted at 6:09 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    ddbt01 Posts: 27

    I live in an area that was annexed just before the 98 flood. I have a question, why are other areas that have been annexed recently getting city sewer and I have none. The only benefit that I see is trash pickup. Does anyone know what the city is supposed to provide in exchange for annexation? Thanks for the information.

  • Hoot posted at 4:35 am on Mon, Sep 10, 2012.

    Hoot Posts: 144

    If your property is around the IH 10 and SH 130 interchange I believe you will be annexed.That area is set to see the largest growth of businesses generating taxable income that could be accessed by the city.

    Seguin really needs the revenue. Caterpillar was given long term exemptions and abatements coupled with the low paying jobs it's effect was minimal. CPS which is non taxable bought the power plant. So loss of those taxes. The gas boom has bought worker to town, but due to the transitory nature of the job that is mostly temporary. Seguin has no entertainment or restaurant scene to speak of it's unlikely to attract younger families to buy houses. Overall small businesses are not being attracted as evidenced by the amount of vacant buildings and frequent changes in ownership of existing bushiness.

    Annexation is in the best interest of the city. Having lived here nearly 60 years and seeing how New Braunsfel and San Marcos have grown and developed by taking advantage of the Austin - San Antonio corridor while Seguin has declined. I would think If the city doesn't take advantage of the SH 130-IH10 interchange area. Seguin is going to continue on it's downward spiral.

    Sorry Scott, but I hope that annexing the interchange area is going to be a move in the right direction for the town as a whole. If not they still have to pay the city bills someway.

  • JArevalo posted at 9:32 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    JArevalo Posts: 28

    OR you can just buy property in the city limits and put that property's address on your license and Seguin City Council will consider you a resident. The city manager does that very thing. Seguin has the highest tax rate of all the cities in Guadalupe County. Pet adoption fees were raised, now there will be a parking fee for the fair, utility rates have been consistently raised and only this year was the trend broken. The city manager has gotten a consistent raise also. In 2006 he made approximately $120,000 and he now makes approximately $170,000. In 6 years he has gotten an approximate raise of $50,000. Wow! No money for your road, huh Mr. Powers???????????

  • scottpowers posted at 8:47 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    No thank you codger, that is one entitlement I do not want or need. I see my problem now, my expectations are too high for such "different" people. Sorry, I am aiming for gold but not surprisingly getting lead-a heavy metal. Let us know where the post office can forward your mail before you completely move...

  • codger posted at 7:51 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    codger Posts: 28

    Welcome to Seguin, Scott. Maybe someone will listen to your complaints after you are entitled to as a taxpaying resident of this great city.
    --or-- good luck on your move--

  • scottpowers posted at 6:38 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Thanks.We have in the recent past, accepted from the SH 130 project,reviewed an offer for some of our land sold for this project. We agressively negotiated a very, very, fair offer for our land and was on an uphill battle all of the way. We won!That is how law is made. The law is mostly interpretation of how you view the law and the spirit of the law.I have fought, in the past, many uphill battles and won about 95 percent..You never win them all but I can say I tried.

  • GunnyA posted at 6:15 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    GunnyA Posts: 259

    Your logical response is noted and accepted, do have an uphill battle to fight.

  • scottpowers posted at 5:56 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Thanks Gunny A. for your observation but I have never been a door mat nor do I just accept life's consequences, I am smarter than that. If you were in an automobile accident, that was someone else's fault, would you just accept life's consequences, "Oh my, I am disabled for life, I guess I will just accept it! My bother's law firm has made tens of millions for clients who did not just accept it, as you state. I did not ask for it, nor will I accept it. I am well versed in Municipal code as well as legal powers and know I have no chance of stopping it but I can make it very difficult for them. If you cannot take that as an answer, Move on.

  • GunnyA posted at 5:36 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    GunnyA Posts: 259

    I truly appreciate and respect your last comment, Scott...if I was you and in your situation, I would fight annexation as well...I never challenged your intelligence and judgement to make your own decisions, so please don't challenge mine.

  • scottpowers posted at 5:29 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Well, perhaps it is an overreaction and I am sorry if I misread the statement so I will not worry about it any longer. What I will worry about is Seguin and their future plans. I sold real estate here in Seguin and McQueeney, with Mickey Ferrell realtors, for years, in the early 1990s as well as another real estate and company, so I know what people in my past business dealings wanted and their views. Our family ranch has been in the family well before Seguin was Seguin and feel that we are over taxed and underserved, currently and in the past by the county and now have to worry about the future taxes from the city of Seguin..I must say, my views are a small portion of what the city residents, as well as county residents ,are saying. I haved, in the past offered to volunteer for the city Economic development corp but they absolutely refused to even consider my ideas. The city recently reported to me that they had no money to fix a road close to my house that the "city" annexed approx. six years ago and this refusal was in writing. If you can't afford to repair your roads, don't annex it. I have my own successful antiques business with absolutely no overhead as well as do legal research for my brothers Dallas law firm, so you will have to forgive me for assuming I am smart enough to make some judgements and observations in Seguin Texas.

  • GunnyA posted at 5:22 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    GunnyA Posts: 259

    Most of the comments here remind me of the time my son, then in the 2nd grade, told me that he wanted to move to a different school. I asked him why he felt that way, his response was that of a typical kid in the 2nd grade..."because, Pop, I don't like my PE teacher"...I told him that he would move to another school when I PCS'd. Accept life, consequences of life and annexation, or move.

  • Chris Lykins posted at 4:39 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    Chris Lykins Posts: 350 Staff

    scottpowers: If you don't like it then leave is an extremely common reply — extrapolating that as any kind of threat is an overreaction.

  • Hairlover posted at 4:05 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    Hairlover Posts: 12

    Well sir I can tell you this much...there was no threat. All you seem to do is complain about things and although that is your God given and constitutional gets rather old. That's why some folks will tell you if you don't like it than leave.

  • scottpowers posted at 3:47 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Sorry hairlover and Chris Lykins, when someone wants to "help" me move,when I never mentioned moving, ever, I begin to think to myself, what is the real message, especially from someone I DO NOT know, nor do I want to know!! Yes I am irate. I DO NOT want anything to do with the city of Seguin until it can prove it's worth.

  • Hairlover posted at 3:23 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    Hairlover Posts: 12

    Taxwatchdog I agree with you.That being said I fathom how Scott could even REMOTELY construe a threat from jshurley04. I see his reaction as irate and incoherant.

  • scottpowers posted at 3:22 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    Thanks taxwatchdog, you are exactly right! Exactly right. Our family ranch has been in the family, here in Guadalupe/Seguin, since 1831. I will admit, I am tough on Seguin but after 41 years here of bad planning and poorly done projects, I want nothing to do with being a part of the city of Seguin. While I may not have much choice in this matter, I can and will make my opinions known and will fight the city tooth and nail. If the city of Seguin wants tax dollars from us, they will have to earn it..

  • taxwatchdog posted at 2:16 pm on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    taxwatchdog Posts: 466

    Scott Powers does not want to leave Seguin. He does not want to be involuntarily annexed into the city. Following the Oak Village North annexation, utility services had to be extended there and utility rates for all Seguin residents were increased to pay for it. How is annexation beneficial when all Seguin residents must pay higher utility rates? Would jshurley04 be happy if the next round of annexations required another utility rate increase? Better ask now. Just like with Oak Village North, finding out how much annexations will cost Seguin residents after the fact is too late.

  • Chris Lykins posted at 11:22 am on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    Chris Lykins Posts: 350 Staff


    What does that even mean?

  • scottpowers posted at 9:24 am on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    I will consider it what I consider it. If you do not like that don't print it.

  • Chris Lykins posted at 7:11 am on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    Chris Lykins Posts: 350 Staff

    That's in no way a threat, and Scott, when you go public and talk about your political and social position on a given issue you invite public discussion of it. If you want to think what you want with no interaction then don't do so publicly.

  • scottpowers posted at 5:26 am on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    scottpowers Posts: 226

    jshurley04, you need to be very careful what you say in writing because I can take that as a threat so I am going to invite you to remove this comment, second, you need to mind your own business.. I will say what needs to said.. I don't know you and you do not know me...Let's keeep it that way!!

  • jshurley04 posted at 4:18 am on Sun, Sep 9, 2012.

    jshurley04 Posts: 69

    Then Scott, we invite you and your poor attitude to move. Need help, let us know because we are kind enough to help out. If you don't want to be part of Seguin, then please by all means leave our good city. I love it here and am proud to be part of Seguin and this wonderful culture. Yes, it does frustrate from time to time, but it seems you only want to look for the bad, so please just leave.